In this energizing episode, hosts Patrick and Peter sit down with engineer, futurist, and author José Cordeiro to discuss one of the most provocative ideas in science today: defeating ageing. With humor, urgency, and bold predictions, Cordeiro lays out his belief that ageing is the world’s biggest killer — and that it's both preventable and reversible within our lifetimes.

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José Cordeiro passionately argues that ageing is humanity’s deadliest and most solvable problem — and the science to overcome it is rapidly maturing. With public awareness, bold funding, and disruptive tech, he believes we are on the brink of a revolution where death from ageing becomes optional.

• Ageing Is the Real Pandemic: Cordeiro argues that age-related diseases cause 90% of deaths in developed nations — far surpassing war, cancer, or climate change — and calls for a global effort to treat ageing as the root disease.
• The Science of Rejuvenation: Inspired by Nobel-winning research, he explains how epigenetic reprogramming, stem cells, and gene therapy may soon reverse biological ageing, not just slow it down.
• A New Economic Forecast for Immortality: In a humorous yet grounded claim, he suggests that maintaining biological youth could cost as little as €10 per year by mid-century, thanks to exponential tech advances.
• Longevity Escape Velocity by 2030: Cordeiro and colleagues, including Ray Kurzweil, believe that by 2030, humanity may reach a point where each year of life extension buys another year — marking the start of “longevity escape velocity.”
• Global Race for the Cure: From Saudi Arabia’s $20 billion Hevolution Foundation to Google's Calico and Jeff Bezos’ Altos Labs, governments and billionaires are pouring resources into anti-ageing research.
• AI’s Role in Bioengineering Breakthroughs: With AI models like DeepMind’s AlphaFold revolutionizing protein science, Cordeiro believes AI will soon decode the full complexity of life and ageing at cellular levels.
• Madrid as the New “Blue Zone”: He champions Madrid — with the EU’s highest life expectancy — as a new longevity capital, advocating for a European Anti-Aging Agency to drive research and policy.
• A Political and Philosophical Movement: Beyond science, Cordeiro is building a political and cultural campaign for life extension, urging global unity against ageing and redefining what it means to live well — and indefinitely.